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	<title>Comments on: Palin&#8217;s Church and the Gay Thing</title>
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	<description>I use my blog and the podcast as a therapeutic release. If friends and nice people read or listen cool, I guess, but I'm not asking you to.</description>
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		<title>By: Jamey</title>
		<link>http://www.nealcampbell.com/2008/09/07/palins-church-and-the-gay-thing/#comment-19541</link>
		<dc:creator>Jamey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Oct 2008 19:29:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@mag Isn't that what Phil 2:13 says? "for it is God who works in you,..."</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@mag Isn&#8217;t that what Phil 2:13 says? &#8220;for it is God who works in you,&#8230;&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Mag</title>
		<link>http://www.nealcampbell.com/2008/09/07/palins-church-and-the-gay-thing/#comment-19513</link>
		<dc:creator>Mag</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Oct 2008 08:15:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Jamey: There is only 1 means to salvation. Jesus says "I am the Way, the Truth and the Life".

Jesus also says "It is finished". 
This is the work you need to work out your salvation about, wrapping your head about Jesus' complete and everlastingly finished work, and to trust in, rely on, and cleave to, him.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Jamey: There is only 1 means to salvation. Jesus says &#8220;I am the Way, the Truth and the Life&#8221;.</p>
<p>Jesus also says &#8220;It is finished&#8221;.<br />
This is the work you need to work out your salvation about, wrapping your head about Jesus&#8217; complete and everlastingly finished work, and to trust in, rely on, and cleave to, him.</p>
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		<title>By: Jamey</title>
		<link>http://www.nealcampbell.com/2008/09/07/palins-church-and-the-gay-thing/#comment-18266</link>
		<dc:creator>Jamey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Sep 2008 19:38:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Neal,

I'm not condemning you, I was just making a comment and attempted to back my comment with scripture.  I too choose grace over judgment.  You are correct about judge, be judged.


12 Therefore, my beloved,  as you have always  obeyed, so now, not only as in my presence but much more in my absence, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling, 13 for  it is God who works in you, both to will and to work for  his good pleasure. Phil 2:12-13 (ESV)

We must be diligent in the use of all the means which lead to our salvation, persevering therein to the end. With great care, lest, with all our advantages, we should come short. Work out your salvation, for it is God who worketh in you. This encourages us to do our utmost, because our labour shall not be in vain: we must still depend on the grace of God. —Matthew Henry Concise

@ Randy - thank you, but I quote my sources and to them I give credit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Neal,</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not condemning you, I was just making a comment and attempted to back my comment with scripture.  I too choose grace over judgment.  You are correct about judge, be judged.</p>
<p>12 Therefore, my beloved,  as you have always  obeyed, so now, not only as in my presence but much more in my absence, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling, 13 for  it is God who works in you, both to will and to work for  his good pleasure. Phil 2:12-13 (ESV)</p>
<p>We must be diligent in the use of all the means which lead to our salvation, persevering therein to the end. With great care, lest, with all our advantages, we should come short. Work out your salvation, for it is God who worketh in you. This encourages us to do our utmost, because our labour shall not be in vain: we must still depend on the grace of God. —Matthew Henry Concise</p>
<p>@ Randy - thank you, but I quote my sources and to them I give credit.</p>
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		<title>By: neal</title>
		<link>http://www.nealcampbell.com/2008/09/07/palins-church-and-the-gay-thing/#comment-18228</link>
		<dc:creator>neal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Sep 2008 03:57:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You can condemn me to hell for choosing grace over judgment, but I cannot comprehend a God who views a committed homosexual marriage as sin.

At any rate, my point of view is based on the words of Jesus. He said, with the same measure you judge, you'll BE judged. My response to that is to give all kinds of grace in all kinds of ways because I'd most like to be judged for my grace. 

I'm not quite willing to admit publicly the degree to which I disdain Paul's, the Apostle's, influence on Christianity but I'll say this: If Jesus didn't condemn it, I'm not too worried about it. Jesus seemed to mostly be upset about religion, so that's what I choose to mostly be upset by.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You can condemn me to hell for choosing grace over judgment, but I cannot comprehend a God who views a committed homosexual marriage as sin.</p>
<p>At any rate, my point of view is based on the words of Jesus. He said, with the same measure you judge, you&#8217;ll BE judged. My response to that is to give all kinds of grace in all kinds of ways because I&#8217;d most like to be judged for my grace. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m not quite willing to admit publicly the degree to which I disdain Paul&#8217;s, the Apostle&#8217;s, influence on Christianity but I&#8217;ll say this: If Jesus didn&#8217;t condemn it, I&#8217;m not too worried about it. Jesus seemed to mostly be upset about religion, so that&#8217;s what I choose to mostly be upset by.</p>
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		<title>By: Randy</title>
		<link>http://www.nealcampbell.com/2008/09/07/palins-church-and-the-gay-thing/#comment-18211</link>
		<dc:creator>Randy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Sep 2008 22:25:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wish I could speak (or write) as well as Jamey...good job.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wish I could speak (or write) as well as Jamey&#8230;good job.</p>
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		<title>By: Jamey</title>
		<link>http://www.nealcampbell.com/2008/09/07/palins-church-and-the-gay-thing/#comment-18192</link>
		<dc:creator>Jamey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Sep 2008 16:53:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Neal,

I have to say something about your comment about "He [Jesus] didn’t talk about homosexuality".  And you can insert any "named sin" in place of homosexuality.

1.  You shall not lie with a male as with a woman; it is an abomination. Lev 18:22 (ESV)   (I also tell people that contextually the following verse should go along with it too ... And you shall not lie with any animal and so make yourself unclean with it, neither shall any woman give herself to an animal to lie with it: it is  perversion.  Lev 18:23 (ESV))

2. In the beginning was  the Word, and  the Word was with God, and  the Word was God. 2 He was in the beginning with God.  John 1:1-2 (ESV)  "The Personal Word," a title of the Son of God; this identification is substantiated by the statements of doctrine in John 1:1-18, declaring in verses John 1:1, 2 (1) His distinct and superfinite Personality, (2) His relation in the Godhead (pros, "with," not mere company, but the most intimate communion), —Vine's Expository Dictionary of Old and New Testament Words 

3. Jesus and God are one, then it was also Jesus who said Lev 18:22.

4. Jesus Christ is  the same yesterday and today and forever. Heb 13:8 (ESV) (again with context,  Do not be  led away by diverse and strange teachings, for it is good for the heart to be strengthened by grace, ... Heb 13:9a (ESV)

@ Akagaga - Amen, well said!

I would like to say one more thing as a general comment, God's Grace and Mercy is NOT a license to sin.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Neal,</p>
<p>I have to say something about your comment about &#8220;He [Jesus] didn’t talk about homosexuality&#8221;.  And you can insert any &#8220;named sin&#8221; in place of homosexuality.</p>
<p>1.  You shall not lie with a male as with a woman; it is an abomination. Lev 18:22 (ESV)   (I also tell people that contextually the following verse should go along with it too &#8230; And you shall not lie with any animal and so make yourself unclean with it, neither shall any woman give herself to an animal to lie with it: it is  perversion.  Lev 18:23 (ESV))</p>
<p>2. In the beginning was  the Word, and  the Word was with God, and  the Word was God. 2 He was in the beginning with God.  John 1:1-2 (ESV)  &#8220;The Personal Word,&#8221; a title of the Son of God; this identification is substantiated by the statements of doctrine in John 1:1-18, declaring in verses John 1:1, 2 (1) His distinct and superfinite Personality, (2) His relation in the Godhead (pros, &#8220;with,&#8221; not mere company, but the most intimate communion), —Vine&#8217;s Expository Dictionary of Old and New Testament Words </p>
<p>3. Jesus and God are one, then it was also Jesus who said Lev 18:22.</p>
<p>4. Jesus Christ is  the same yesterday and today and forever. Heb 13:8 (ESV) (again with context,  Do not be  led away by diverse and strange teachings, for it is good for the heart to be strengthened by grace, &#8230; Heb 13:9a (ESV)</p>
<p>@ Akagaga - Amen, well said!</p>
<p>I would like to say one more thing as a general comment, God&#8217;s Grace and Mercy is NOT a license to sin.</p>
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		<title>By: akaGaGa</title>
		<link>http://www.nealcampbell.com/2008/09/07/palins-church-and-the-gay-thing/#comment-17822</link>
		<dc:creator>akaGaGa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Sep 2008 10:41:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The difference I see between homosexuality, and gluttony and divorce, is that gluttons and divorcees are not campaigning to have their sins declared unsinful by the church.  If we confess our sins, we are forgiven.  If we say we have not sinned, we make Him a liar and His word is not in us. (I John 1:9-10)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The difference I see between homosexuality, and gluttony and divorce, is that gluttons and divorcees are not campaigning to have their sins declared unsinful by the church.  If we confess our sins, we are forgiven.  If we say we have not sinned, we make Him a liar and His word is not in us. (I John 1:9-10)</p>
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		<title>By: neal</title>
		<link>http://www.nealcampbell.com/2008/09/07/palins-church-and-the-gay-thing/#comment-17565</link>
		<dc:creator>neal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Sep 2008 01:41:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Tastyworm - you can't imagine how difficult it was for me not to counter Randy's ice cream suggestion with bacon, but I gave in to the hugs. Now, I'm thinking ice cream with bacon on the side?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Tastyworm - you can&#8217;t imagine how difficult it was for me not to counter Randy&#8217;s ice cream suggestion with bacon, but I gave in to the hugs. Now, I&#8217;m thinking ice cream with bacon on the side?</p>
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		<title>By: Tastyworm</title>
		<link>http://www.nealcampbell.com/2008/09/07/palins-church-and-the-gay-thing/#comment-17534</link>
		<dc:creator>Tastyworm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Sep 2008 23:00:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Randy

Agree mostly with what you say, however, the criteria for non-perishment (I know that may not be a word, but I like it ;) ) is in John 3:16 - so long as that criteria is met, then I believe you're not doomed. HOWEVER, that's not saying we should disregard the bible, or pick and choose the bits we like and ignore the bits we don't - but once you believe - you *should* automatically strive to sin-less..... however, as I'm a God-fearing sinner, I know it's not all that easy to accomplish.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Randy</p>
<p>Agree mostly with what you say, however, the criteria for non-perishment (I know that may not be a word, but I like it <img src='http://www.nealcampbell.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> ) is in John 3:16 - so long as that criteria is met, then I believe you&#8217;re not doomed. HOWEVER, that&#8217;s not saying we should disregard the bible, or pick and choose the bits we like and ignore the bits we don&#8217;t - but once you believe - you *should* automatically strive to sin-less&#8230;.. however, as I&#8217;m a God-fearing sinner, I know it&#8217;s not all that easy to accomplish.</p>
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		<title>By: Tastyworm</title>
		<link>http://www.nealcampbell.com/2008/09/07/palins-church-and-the-gay-thing/#comment-17532</link>
		<dc:creator>Tastyworm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Sep 2008 22:56:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Stuff icecream, it's morning here - bacon time! (oh wait.. at work... settling for a cream-cheese bagel instead)</description>
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